Dec. 10, 1996
This is the answer by PROF. JOHN R. R. SEARL to an article by Mr. Anders Heerfordt in the publication, ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT JOURNAL. This article has been posted to various WEB sights including THE KEELY NET, by Mr. Heerfordt.
MR. ANDERS HEERFORDT
I met this man at the lecture, or more precise, lectures in DENMARK.
He stands taller than me, and broad shoulder structure.
To my opinion, he appeared to be nothing more than an adamant pompous absolute idiot. That is putting it, very mildly. There is a word that fits him perfect. But being a gentleman, I will not embarrass our tender readers, by the use of it.
MR. HEERFORDT at these lectures, took over control. I was not allowed by him to give my report as planned. He would ask me questions on the behalf of those present.
The questions put to me were really questions based on various writers articles. Which in the first place was nothing to do with me. His questions should have been put to those who wrote the articles. I am not them. What they saw, and what I see are entirely different views. I answered his questions as truthfully as I could.
I DID, AS I HAD DONE DURING THE LAST 10 YEARS, POINT OUT THAT I AM NOT INTERESTED IN THE PAST, THAT HAS BEEN DESTROYED, I HAVE NOTHING NOW TO SUPPORT THE PAST. I MUST FORGET AND RE-START AGAIN FROM A.
AS AND WHEN I HAVE REACHED THE POINT WHERE I CAN RE-DEMONSTRATE MY WORK - YOU WILL CERTAINLY BE INFORMED, AS IN THE PAST, BY THE MEDIA.
I wanted to discuss the present, not what was dead. Because of this, I refused to help him upon his demands.
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY TO HIM.
I am not accountable to him. He has no LEGAL rights, whatsoever, to demand
details for his own greedy gains. He has no authority to call upon anyone
to pressure them into revealing details about what I have done in the past.
If he calls upon any member of my team to try to extract information on this technology, I have instructed them to tell him that they are not interested in speaking to him. He has no authority whatsoever to waste your time.
HEERFORDT states that GUNNAR stated that he had not seen anything unusual about my magnets. Searl was apparently not being truthful.
HERE SOMEONE IS LYING, BUT WHO, IS THE QUESTION
Ask yourself this very simple question. Why did GUNNER SANDBERG go to
so much trouble to write a number of reports upon this matter?
Ask yourself, why then, did he go to such great lengths, in his report upon his visit to me, giving date of demonstration, and report upon what he witnessed? Not only that , he even drew a set of drawings in support of his statements of what happened.
This report has been released, by a number of journals. HEERFORDT states that he had read such statements. Yet he is so STUPID that he cannot see that GUNNER is lying because he is involved with another person in trying to copy this effect.
Ask yourself this; why did GUNNAR and BRIAN COLLINS go to such great trouble to try and duplicate this effect, if they had never seen it?
THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION
CAN YOU RELY UPON GUNNAR SANDBERG'S STATEMENTS?
DAVID STERLING got his solicitor in LONDON to phone and record their
conversation, so that he could have a much better idea on what was taking
place at the University.
DAVID STERLING'S SECRETARY was given the task to type up the transcript of that phone call between the solicitor and GUNNAR SANDBERG, unknown to Gunnar that it was a solicitor investigating him.
I will not repeat that report here, as you can read it in BOOK 1A, from page 16. If you would kindly refer back to that report, look at the last but one paragraph from the bottom. HEERFORDT was taken as a sucker. Gunnar lied to him. Gunnar's statement was that this effect had been seen by another person. That is TRUE. That person was BRIAN COLLINS and he witnessed it at my home well back in 1968 and again just after he had signed a contract with GUNNAR to copy it.
GUNNAR could not explain how it was created, so he withdrew from any statement which would show his ignorance upon the matter, being employed by a UNIVERSITY. I can understand his position of embarrassment. But he created it, by signing a contract with Brian Collins, instead of working with me, to define this effect into a statement, which could be appreciated by others.
I know that he was under pressure, I admit, by Brian Collins. I had told him that Brian Collins was a CON-MAN, and while this contract remains, I would not be involved. I am not a CON-MAN, I even phoned Dr. Edwards, telling him that Collins was a CON-MAN. I told him that nothing could be done by me unless we all came together and produced an HONEST contract that protected my INVENTION.
Dr. Edwards did emphasis to me upon this phone call, also upon another call which, he, himself made to me, that my name and invention was protected in that contract. That the University knew who was the rightful inventor. That Brian Collins could not take that away from me.
Yet, the contract which GUNNAR SANDBERG brought here for me to sign, which was witnessed by another member present, did in FACT make no mention of my name, or the SEARL EFFECT, OR THE SEARL EFFECT GENERATOR.
It stated that Brian Collins was the rightful owner to this engine which was to be developed. It would herein after be called "THE COLLIN ENGINE". THAT ALL RESEARCH FINDINGS WERE THE PROPERTY OF COLLINS.
GUNNAR SANDBERG was trying hard to convince us that I was protected therein.
That contract declared that it was Collins Engine. Collins was the rightful
How on earth can these so called responsible persons stand there and say that they have protected your interest and invention?
Ask yourself.. WHY WAS GUNNAR SO DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET MY SIGNATURE TO A DOCUMENT, THAT I HAPPEN TO NOTICE WAS OUT OF DATE?
Is this the business way of a University?
To me it is FRAUD.
There was no doubt about this matter. They know Brian Collins had no
idea how to create this effect. They needed me to work there to do it for
You don't have to be an EXPERT to see the TRUTH about my work. It is clear as the nose upon your face, on reading that solicitor's report, that Gunnar and Brian Collins were after the millions of Pounds profit in awards, that is clearly available for such a device as the S.E.G.
Collins spent a fortune at the University, in an effort to steal this project from me.
Ask yourself, would a FOOL spend a million to copy something in secret, unless he/she had witnessed such a device?
THEY STATE THAT MONEY TALKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.. Here is a case which shows that case to be TRUE. I had no money to give GUNNAR to undertake this work.. Brian Collins had. In this case GUNNAR, MONEY SPOKE LOUDER THAN WORDS.
GUNNAR sits in the middle of a crossroads. He cannot tell the TRUTH about my project, because of the hold over him by BRIAN COLLINS. As they had backed COLLINS claims that they were developing his engine, where the TRUTH was, that they were trying to copy my engine. He could only state that the two engines had some common points, but as COLLINS was paying the cash, obviously, his engine was far superior to that of mine.
What a laugh. I phoned Dr. Edwards upon this engine that was about to be demonstrated, as I never believed one word of that claim. He stated clearly to me "THAT HE WAS STILL WAITING TO SEE SOME PROOF OF HIS CLAIMS". So far Collins has not produced any proof whatsoever.
Ask yourself.. HOW COULD GUNNAR SANDBERG CLASS COLLINS ENGINE SUPERIOR TO MINE WHEN AT THAT TIME NO EXPERIMENTS THAT WERE CARRIED OUT BY THEM HAD PRODUCED ANY RESULTS AT ALL?
It is clear to me that they were trying to undermine me, to force me to join them and do the job for them. Knowing full well that I no longer had the demonstration set, which he saw, and wrote about before BRIAN COLLINS came upon the scene. As he knew that it had been destroyed. He had witnessed the destruction that had been done. He knew that there was no way that I could continue to demonstrate the SEARL EFFECT unless I could make another set. Which he doubted would be possible as I had no hard cash to do it.
In regard to my reference to HEERFORDT asking me to demonstrate the SEARL EFFECT; This idiot was told at the meeting like all the rest were, that at this time I cannot show him this EFFECT. But being GOD ALMIGHTY, he of course knows different, and proudly shows how ignorant he is.
This MR. LOUIS AVILIO who HEERFORDT claims worked with me.. I must state here it's a name that I would not forget. Yet it does not ring a bell. Another point that makes it sound odd, is that if he had worked for me he would have seen this effect. He claims he worked for 5 years with me. He or HEERFORDT is lying. But then Louis Avilio has the right to state that he never saw such things. This protects him from being drawn into making statements which would show his ignorance on how it's made, and how it works.
How many people see things happen, but refuse to confirm what happened, just because they do not wish to be involved in some one's problem. I know from experience what happened to me one day on the way home from school. I noticed a haystack alight. Seeing no one about, in good nature, and what I thought was my duty, I discontinued my journey home, and rushed up the lane to hammer the door of the house, to tell them that one of their haystacks was on fire. That action cost me a nightmare, Instead of getting a pat on the head, I was accused of lighting that fire. From that personal experience, I would not involve myself in anything which I witnessed, unless I know all the details involved.
There is no doubt in my mind that MR. HEERFORDT is simply boxing clever due to his ignorance. Hoping no doubt that his article will force me to give him the details he is determined to get.
Yet is so simple, all he has to do is get my books on "The Law of the Squares". All the FACTS are unfolding within these books, It would save him a lot of cash chasing his dream. As of this date of Dec.. 10, 1996, he has not ordered any of my books, so he is uninformed as to how this technology works.
HEERFORDT states that Searl must have had a childhood Friend. What crap he writes. He claims that my friends father's name was GEORGE HAYNES.
Let us clean this bullshit up with some good toilet paper, before we all become sick from its' smell.
First.. I was in THORNDON as a child, And this GEORGE HAYNES was no doubt in WALES somewhere. Where, I have no idea. I don't poke my nose into other peoples business.
Secondly.. My childhood friend, was Jill, that is when I was allowed by my foster mother to go out and play. Which was not very often.
Thirdly.. George Haynes became my Landlord, when I was a young man.
In reference to HEERFORDT statement that I said that I did not know where Haynes was and that vast sums of money had been spent trying to find him and others..
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Luis Jarillo and myself spent over two thousand pounds between us in the effort to find past witnesses, without success. I even pulled the midlands social services to drive me around the area in question in the effort to find Haynes's family.
We did find a Haynes, but not the one we were looking for. He said that there had been another Haynes in the street, but he left a few years ago. He had no idea where he had gone. That ended the search. I told Luis not to waste any more cash. I will have to write up the book without the full FACTS.
Sometime in the FUTURE, when publicity runs again, like the past, these people will all appear again, no doubt. until that time comes.. all I can state is out there, even in other countries, are people who attended my lectures and demonstration. They saw, they asked questions upon what they saw. Quite a number wrote letters to Government members. Copies of those letters were released within newsletters which were sent out to many people.
I had in my possession, thousands of newspapers articles and Television programs upon my work. MR. HEERFORDT I do not have to prove anything to you or the ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT JOURNAL, because the mass of articles that went out via the media by so many reporters, stands PROOF to a FACT that something did exist and that JOHN SEARL was the man behind it and its invention.
But here I wish to put all of that behind me and look at this man HEERFORDT.. Its time that he put a zip on his mouth. Let the wind come out of the correct end.
Mr. John A. Thomas wrote the ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT JOURNAL IN REFERENCE TO THAT ARTICLE. This is what he wrote.
This letter is addressing the article on Prof. John R. R. Searl in issue NO. 1 Jan/Feb/Mar 1991.
The Searl National Space Research Consortium (SNSRC) is no longer active. This is a result of Searl's wrongful imprisonment and loss of all of his papers and work. The Consortium newsletters do still exist and are available.
As far as Eye-witness accounts go, all four major television networks in the U.K. ran an ongoing story on Prof. Searl and his flying Levity Disk, complete with video footage of the disks in flight. This series aired for the better part of a year. You can check this with the BBC.1. They told Prof. Searl that they would sell him the footage of the craft in flight for a fee of 32 pounds for the first 30 minutes of search and 10 pounds for each picture plus 17.5% tax. That was too much money to pay.
Prof. Searl used NEODYMIUM in his magnets long before it was "discovered" by the U.S. Airforce in 1966. The element NEODYMIUM was discovered in 1885 and was used in manufacturing of certain types of glass that would not transmit infrared rays. In the pure form it would produce the only bright purple glass known. This element was readily available to Prof. Searl in 1946.
Gunner Sandberg saw a demonstration of the magnets by Prof. Searl, as he told Dr. Edwards of Sussex University. He ruined the magnet that he borrowed from Prof. Searl by breaking pieces off of it for analysis. Sandberg is also connected with a Brian Collins who is trying to duplicate Prof. Searl's work on the S.E.G. He tried to get Prof. Searl to work for him but he refused. "The rights being negotiated in Australia" are by Collins not Searl. Prof. John R. R. Searl has written 4 books to date describing his technology. These books, as well as the old newsletters are available through me.
As far as his family goes, his wife and children never went to the building sight or knew anything about his work other than what was written in the papers and on the radio and television. His wife was responsible for his imprisonment and the burning of his papers and destruction of his equipment. Only she knows the reason for these actions. It took 4 days to burn all his papers which represented years of work and a value of about 5 million pounds. For this reason Prof. Searl doesn't want anything to do with his family and doesn't even know where they are now. Gunnar Sandberg was asked by Prof. Searl to go to his house and retrieve some papers including a register of all the witnesses. Sandberg went to the house but told Prof. Searl that there was too much there and he would go back for it later. Meanwhile the authorities burned all the papers in Prof. Searl's home with his wife's consent. Gunnar wanted to get hold of the magnets from Prof. Searl and get him to sign contracts with him. Prof. Searl did not sign, as his name was not in them, only that of Brian Collins.
Prof. Searl would not give more information or a demonstration of his magnets to Mr. Heerfordt because Andres Heerfordt was only interested in getting information that he could sell with no money going to Prof. Searl for his research.
DEMO-1 was a craft 21 foot in diameter and was capable of flight. It was not a small model hung from wires. It weighed tons.
I probably know more about Prof. Searl than anyone else alive and Andres Heerfordt's article is biased because he didn't get the information about the S.E.G. that he wanted.
After great hardship and difficulty Prof. Searl is continuing with his work. He is dedicated and tenacious in his efforts. Since all his equipment and papers were destroyed; he is starting from scratch and is in the process of developing a generator for electricity based on his technology. He wants to release this technology to the public before it is suppressed or destroyed again. Prof. Searl believes that the time is right for the world to have this technology as it will benefit mankind with a clean source of power and relieve the damage done to the ozone layer by world pollution.
John A. Thomas